Game Theory: Joel's Choice Meant Nothing! (The Last of Us)

20 Th06, 2020
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The Last of Us is one of the most gut wrenching games to come out in recent memory and, since The Last of Us Part 2 is out now, what better time to sink my teeth into this franchise! You know that gut punch, emotional rollercoaster ride I was just talking about? What if I told you that your final choice of the game to save Ellie or let her die to save the world was WRONG? What do I mean? Get ready Theorists, I'm about to blow your mind!
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Writers: Matthew Patrick and Justin Kuiper
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  • When Ellie was tuning the guitar, I said sarcastically "Oh, I bet she's gonna play Megalovania." As soon as I heard those four notes, I fell out of my chair laughing.

    • Same🤣

      Ma. Jennie DuhaylungsodMa. Jennie Duhaylungsod3 ngày trước
    • IKR! Took me a couple milliseconds to recognize the tune, and then I was like "who's ready to have a bad time?!"

      Code951Code9518 ngày trước
    • Same

      Player 11Player 1111 ngày trước
    • Same

      Da bold action manDa bold action man16 ngày trước
    • Exactly what I did

      Kenes SugralinovKenes Sugralinov16 ngày trước
  • So Joels a hero. Gotcha. 👍

    Joey JeffriesJoey Jeffries5 giờ trước
  • I am impressed on how Matpat manage to explain all the details about vaccine and fungi prescription without making it complicated. His channel really educate me on basic science and physic.

    ANG KAI YANG MoeANG KAI YANG Moe7 giờ trước
  • The only thing I can think of is the cordyceps fungus is not a fungal infection but rather an experiment virus with fungal effects

    Super MarioSuper Mario13 giờ trước
  • Who learns more from this channel then school

    Colton RiceColton Rice22 giờ trước
  • How do I show Ellie this?

    Hannah HighwayHannah HighwayNgày trước
  • Yes just find the right person and that is doctor mario

    Purple GuyPurple Guy2 ngày trước
  • Uuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhh Why did use megalovainia

    Ma. Jennie DuhaylungsodMa. Jennie Duhaylungsod3 ngày trước
  • I like to believe fireflies were delusionaly desperate.

    mr maxwellmr maxwell5 ngày trước
  • I think some people need to pay attention better to the story. Ellie wanted to have her immunity mean something. She wanted there to be a vaccine made from her nomatter the cost but I guess its hard to read sometimes

    Sir FrostyFlakesSir FrostyFlakes6 ngày trước
  • the scientist team 6:03

    spacyrobin28spacyrobin287 ngày trước
  • That start of the video was so funny I laughed so hard!!

    KirbKirb7 ngày trước
  • Funny how my name is Joel

    Project AshProject Ash10 ngày trước
  • Sounds like real life I don’t see the problem o loved last of us 2

    HalifaxHalifax10 ngày trước
  • I thought something was off about the science. But I guess game developers can't think of or research everything And yet youtuber are able to look into a lot of the science and explain it in simple enough terms for their viewers to understand.

    ETPangilinan1ETPangilinan111 ngày trước
  • Should have had engie face

  • this makes all the tears from the last of us 2 way more meaningful

    KniivexKniivex11 ngày trước
  • 8:04 karens need to see this, i fckin swear.

    yeonnieeyeonniee13 ngày trước
  • Well, the FEDs aren't wrong calling the Fireflies a group of lunatic terrorists. Just happened to remember that in the game the FEDs are the only faction with actual capability on both industrial, educational, and research sides (while keeping everyone under martial law that is). If anything, the fireflies are the last group of people that could ever come up with anything useful.

    BenlexBenlex14 ngày trước
  • I only understood half of what u just said

    Ryan GibsonRyan Gibson16 ngày trước
  • 0:10 epic sans moment right there

    tepin adonatepin adona19 ngày trước
  • This is an argument I had defending Joel's actions against a soy boy saying he deserved his death after playing TLOU2. A vaccine & an antiviral wouldnt work against a fungus infection & if people were being born immune then they are adapting to the fungal growth & you're fighting adaption by killing them lmao

    Zman 1471Zman 147122 ngày trước
  • Karen:this video right here officer

    Ryan ReynoldsRyan Reynolds24 ngày trước
  • I hate covid-19 and Clickers

    Jason GreenJason Green25 ngày trước
  • 3:20 Now I feel bad for Nathan Drake

    Just_ AdzzzJust_ Adzzz27 ngày trước
  • Matt: But hey that’s just a theory Me: wait that’s actual science, not theory

    HimDevHimDev28 ngày trước
  • They might not know the difference of vaccine and medicine the thing they want to make is medicine because they should've use the weakened fungi instead 😂😂😂

    Manuel BautistaManuel Bautista28 ngày trước
  • Joey choice meant the last of us 2

    flavia silvaflavia silva28 ngày trước
  • The school: teaches u that you can only make vaccines from viruses Some dumb people: i WaNnA lEaRn hOw To PaY tAxEs Also those people: You can definitely make a vaccine for fungus infections

    Bahar 00Bahar 0029 ngày trước
  • !!!

    Yesss sirYesss sir29 ngày trước
  • Its ironic. Many people including Kamala Harris are refusing the vaccine just because of the president in office. severe stupidity. wonder if she would take a vaccine for the zombification virus? wait, its already too late for her. lol

    outworlddragoonoutworlddragoonTháng trước
  • The thing the fireflies are trying to do isn't actually making a vaccine. My understanding is that Elie has a safer strain of the fungus that prevents her from getting the bad , which if transplanted in others would act in a similar manner. Though, you probably wouldn't need to actually even open up her brain to get at the fungus, and if you did you would only need a couple of cells, not the hole thing, so the fireflies are still dumb.

    PiguyalamodePiguyalamodeTháng trước
  • So the second part of the game is absolutely pointless? Can you imagine Abby's face if someone told her, that her dad had no idea what he was doing, and by killing Ellie, he would destroy the chance of having a vaccine?

    Aris5xgAris5xgTháng trước
  • Man I mess Joel.... :(

    Shikido SanShikido SanTháng trước
  • Sooo joel could’ve had Ellie and the world would also be safe? 😐 too late for that now

    Javier LopezJavier LopezTháng trước
  • I was so mad with number 2 well disappointed is more accurate

    Jeff HoughJeff HoughTháng trước
  • The Karen who won’t let her kids have vaccines

    Owen ClarkOwen ClarkTháng trước
  • I don't know how but we need to show this video to Ellie and Abby

    Gustavo XavierGustavo XavierTháng trước
  • I can't remember but I thought they were trying to get the weaker fungus to produce the vaccine but it was lodged in her brain, and they couldn't get it out without her dying

    A RA RTháng trước
  • Joel was just an anti vaxxer

    A RA RTháng trước
  • This proves Druckmann is dumb

    Антон ТатаровАнтон ТатаровTháng trước
    • @Dutch Vin der Linder what I’m trying to say is that medical advancement has stayed the same because of the cordyceps meaning any longtime doctors that still remain would have to perform medical procedures purely off of memory or the little to no textbooks about medicinal related topics

      Diego Devito3198Diego Devito319820 ngày trước
    • No. This proves he’s smart. You think this was on purpose. In a Post apocalyptic world there probably isn’t many science and medical related textbooks. Any doctor would have to rely on memory after many years of survival.

      Diego Devito3198Diego Devito3198Tháng trước
  • Don't let anti-vaxxers see this video 🤣

    mercury vincentmercury vincentTháng trước
  • I want just coz therys

    peter stanthorpepeter stanthorpeTháng trước
  • bruh i learned more in 12 minutes than 7 hours in school

    Gunnar PitzGunnar PitzTháng trước
  • But in the game the doctor said that the fungus in ellie has mutated and thats why she's immune so could they just isolate the mutates fungus and use that as the weakened strain to vaccinate people and make them immune

    Trey CooperTrey CooperTháng trước
  • No wonder the "Zombies" act a little weird in the game, you can hear their suffering when they run towards you. Not the Clickers

    Goal: 1k subsGoal: 1k subsTháng trước
  • loll

    Jangmo oJangmo oTháng trước
  • Lol

    Najhely Rojas.pNajhely Rojas.pTháng trước
  • I knew she was gonna play that song.

    Jrs gameingJrs gameingTháng trước
  • What's funny is that the game actually mentioned in little journals, notes, and recording that you can find that the likelihood of success is incredibly low for the surgery to begin with because of the fact that Cordiceps is a fungus, not a virus. So, to make matters worse, they acted out of fear rather than sound judgement.

    Philosophical_CactusPhilosophical_CactusTháng trước
  • Thank you for finally putting into words why i thought killing the ONLY known fungi immune human to this virus was a terrible idea.

    AugmentalAugmentalTháng trước
  • After tune up: (first note) Everyone: Ah ok. Megalovania you say.

    Turbokid3669Turbokid3669Tháng trước
  • Did she actually play Megalovania or was that just amazingly edited? Sorry I haven't played the game lol. Yes, surprisingly, this is a legitimate question.

    Matthew LaverdeMatthew LaverdeTháng trước
    • Edited

      Onefoot 4Onefoot 4Tháng trước
  • Corona viris

    McgoombaMcgoombaTháng trước
  • I can understand what matpat just said but its hard to accept the fact that the main plot of the game was entirely false.

    Ayumu samaAyumu samaTháng trước
  • Well the fungus that grown in ellie was mutated. It protected her from becoming a zombie. If you but the same mutated fungus from ellie to other healthy people maybe then they become immune too.

    Jiří KočerhánJiří KočerhánTháng trước
  • 0:14 TheLastofUsolovania

    SquidBoi StudiosSquidBoi StudiosTháng trước
  • Measles probably would be completely gone if it weren’t for anti-vaxxers

    Alyssa WilsonAlyssa WilsonTháng trước
  • 2:33 Me: "Ok, hold up, now." 2:46 Also Me: "You had me in the first half, not gonna lie."

    The PhilosopherThe PhilosopherTháng trước
  • Soooo did MatPat just cure Covid ??!? Lol 😂

    Ashley GibsonAshley GibsonTháng trước
  • Don’t forget, the rule medicine operates on, above all else, is a simple phrase: “do no harm” killing Ellie for the vaccine is not only ineffective, but also a clear violation of every medical code

    Rob BagelRob BagelTháng trước
  • all the people who disliked this video are anti-vaxers

    amino aminoamino aminoTháng trước
  • 6:00

    Stevie BranhamStevie BranhamTháng trước
  • TLOU isn't hard sci-fi, it's SyFy. According to Naughty Dog, the Fireflies would have succeeded in synthesizing a cure from Ellie's brain tissue. There isn't a single moment in either game that suggests otherwise. The Fireflies weren't "stupid," the game's science is pure fantasy and serves only to facilitate the plot's dramatic stakes. TLOU isn't about "man save girl from bad guys," it's about a man who doomed the world because he couldn't lose another daughter.

    ScottScottTháng trước
    • @Mr. Note List of characters who say with absolute certainty that the Fireflies would have made the cure: Joel Marlene Jerry Mel Nora List of characters who raise even the slightest of doubts:

      ScottScottTháng trước
    • @Scott Don't need to. When working with fiction you base it on reality until the story show reason to do otherwise.

      Mr. NoteMr. NoteTháng trước
    • @Mr. Note Show me a single moment in either game that suggests the Fireflies might have failed to synthesize the cure.

      ScottScottTháng trước
    • Naughty Dog opinion on it is completely irrelevant if they didn't add it to the ingame lore. As in something you can find in a document, or see in action, or hear in dialogue.

      Mr. NoteMr. NoteTháng trước
  • Umm, Yeah... This Is hilarious.. No Questions asked... 🤣, Tell me I'm not the only one who see's Ellie as a Favorite Character? Also am I the only one who Loves The Last Of us🤔🤔

    MLBforlifeMLBforlifeTháng trước
  • Abby's dad is so dumb not knowing this

    VTBU RoseVTBU RoseTháng trước
  • The fact that you actually gave a proper explanation to all this. really shows how bad last of us 2 is.

    MikeEMikeETháng trước
  • That intro made me smile Lol

    jules CEjules CETháng trước
  • Hi Matt, the future here, assuming you wrote this less than a week before uploading this video, the virus went from 400k deaths worldwide to over 1 million in less then 3 months these are scary times especially considering the virus has killed more then twice the amount of people in half the time between the start of quarantine and this video being posted don't worry, it'll be over soon, love you all and stay safe the vaccin is on its way future out

    I am bad at naming thingsI am bad at naming thingsTháng trước
  • Ellie must be immune. It can't be that she got infected with a less harmful mutation of the fungus, because the person that bit her was obviously infected with the "bad" fungus...did it mutate on the way from the the teeth to her skin???

    dfdhfhgjdfdhfhgjTháng trước
  • To think that there a re STILL people out there that believe Joel is a bad person and "killed the world" for saving Ellie. There is TOO much information and facts that prove it. :/

    The GongoozlerThe GongoozlerTháng trước
  • No one: Literally no one: Me when I look at the middle name from 8:24: D O E S I T S T A N D F O R A U G M E N T E D R E A L I T Y?!?!

    Insert Username HereInsert Username HereTháng trước
  • Nice biology lesson but the bottom line is that it's just a game and requires a certain amount of suspended belief to be enjoyed like most Hollywood productions today. Recently I have been re-watching The Outer Limits. It was good in the 60's when I was 14 but at 65+ their science is so ridiculous that it's almost unwatchable. Anyway, a thumbs-up for a really nice presentation on your video

    Bill GBill GTháng trước
  • But everyone who loves Abby will cry saying she was justified and Joel was evil...

    Jetblast01Jetblast01Tháng trước
    • @Pete Jr. lol that didn't take long

      Jetblast01Jetblast01Tháng trước
  • Great, that now means the story of LoU 2 is worse now, because now it means Abby doing [redacted] at the start of the game is just petty eye for eye revenge, and nothing to do with the same “one life for humanity” stuff that her group was spouting out

    Karl WittenburgKarl WittenburgTháng trước
  • Even if mat pat was wrong no one cares cause its humanity its better with out us

    Ivan the dumb***Ivan the dumb***Tháng trước
  • What you are saying isn't really right. Fungal infections that are cutaneous are easy to treat. But if someone gets a systemic fungal infection then that is essentially a death sentence. Fungi are eukaryotes that are very similar to animals in terms of their genetic code. This means that a systemic fungal infection would be very difficult to be targeted without the treatment targeting your own body cells. There arent many fungi species that would cause systemic fungal infections (like the one in the last of us, but obviously in a non-zombifying way), but the rare times that someone inhales the spores of these lethal fungi, almost always they will die within a short span of time. So in response to your comment about viruses being harder to treat, I would say that compared to fungi that cause systemic fungal infections like the one in the game, viruses are way easier to treat.

    SamonSamonTháng trước
  • E

    Antoni PedroAntoni PedroTháng trước
  • The game actually does a good job of astablishing that the Fireflies are super incompetent, and as the player, you wouldn't believe that they could pull it off, they are just grasping at straws

    WhoCaresWhoCaresTháng trước
  • How can ellie play megalovania after being born in an apocalyptic world?!?! She can't have heard it...Hey game theorist please make a theory about this

    DeirdreDeirdreTháng trước
  • 0:15 megalovania???

    Cauan Soares maisaCauan Soares maisaTháng trước
  • So we’re basically fu$#*d if the Ants go rogue

    MqamarMqamarTháng trước
  • Haha u r a poor loser. R u in love with that kid Ellie? Haha pathetic.

    BZgABZgATháng trước
  • Funfact mushrooms are more related to animals than plants

    S.C.P - 049S.C.P - 049Tháng trước
  • I would have made the same choice. If it's between my son and the entire population of the earth, then the entire population of earth better start making peace with their gods.

    Laird of MisruleLaird of Misrule2 tháng trước
  • Imagine if Ellie had watched this video at some point, her relationship with Joel would have been completely different :(

    Bnjmo MedBnjmo Med2 tháng trước
  • 0:14 are ya winning, daughter

    oolexer bootenoolexer booten2 tháng trước
    • i disliked

      oolexer bootenoolexer booten2 tháng trước
  • Even more importantly than all the science in this video, in my opinion at least, is that even assuming that a 'vaccine' could have been manufactured and successfully distributed to the entire world in a fair, unbiased, totally not utilized for power and control over everyone manner... Joel still has absolutely zero moral obligation to allow Ellie to have her life taken for the 'good of the world'. Full stop.

    jimshaly1jimshaly12 tháng trước
  • 0:31 Jesus man. lol

    Lee PersonLee Person2 tháng trước
  • When me and my older sister watched my dad play TLOU and we saw the ending, my sister started to question the doctor's credentials SHE WAS RIGHT

    C A S T R I E L L EC A S T R I E L L E2 tháng trước
  • 7:37 "It is a huge, HUGE number" A quick Google search brought up a CDC study from 2017 that said the flu kills 646,000 people each year. 400,000 aren't that many for a global pandemic. It's like, what, 0.005% of the population?

    Queen Bitch KaNoMikoQueen Bitch KaNoMiko2 tháng trước
  • I find it stupid and impossible that ellie is the only human in the world who is immune. Like wtf? Out of all 7 billion people, there is only one immune human? Thats dumb.

    Jirhu PerezJirhu Perez2 tháng trước
  • By that point, Joel probably questions if humanity should live on. As literally everyone around him betrays him, is murdered or tries to murder him or the people he cares about. At that point, there’s exactly 1 person he knows is a decent, humane person left-Ellie. So, he chooses her.

    Just AguyJust Aguy2 tháng trước
  • Next Game Theory: Joel's Death Meant Nothing! (The Last of Us 2)

    JônatasJônatas2 tháng trước
  • Did everyone die and turned into zombies Cause i think global warming made the zombies

    Huab Ntsa YangHuab Ntsa Yang2 tháng trước
  • Doctors would’ve basically killed Ellie for no reason, Even though Joel Killed so many people just to save Ellie, nothing would’ve happened except for Ellie dying and no vaccine would be good

    BostonBraxoBostonBraxo2 tháng trước
  • I have a better name for this episode, The anti Karen game.

    The PencilistThe Pencilist2 tháng trước
  • Oh ma god I’m shook I never noticed you did tlou!

    DinathebearDinathebear2 tháng trước
  • 0:16 is that sans music IDK Tell me in the chat

    SuperSonicIsaihaSuperSonicIsaiha2 tháng trước
  • No 60% of deaths of the COVID-19

    Teagan FjermestadTeagan Fjermestad2 tháng trước
    • Are not from COVID-19

      Teagan FjermestadTeagan Fjermestad2 tháng trước