Game Theory: Did Dream FAKE His Speedrun? A Final Analysis.

17 Th01, 2021
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There has been a controversy brewing on the Minecraft side of VIworld centered around well known Minecraft creator Dream. He's been accused of faking his speedrun and it has caused a lot of stir. I'm not here to point fingers or accuse anyone. What I'm doing today, Theorists, is going over the facts of this situation and why it is a lot more complicated than people are making it out to be.
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  • I mean who really cares if he cheated if he didnt get the world record or even close to it

  • "did dream cheat?" Matpat: well yes but actually no

    AverageDamianAverageDamian3 giờ trước
  • I know people are thinking that he did not...but your right he used mods and cheats

    xBløxy GãmerxxBløxy Gãmerx3 giờ trước
  • I wanna know that skit MatPat's in at 11:27

    Leslye BeauchampLeslye Beauchamp5 giờ trước
  • That guy in the intro looked scared, like OH NO PLEASE NO.

    Deathymoon 1Deathymoon 15 giờ trước
  • Fun Fact - regression towards the mean is one of the most important elements in determining sample size for clinical testing. This random statistics phenomenon is what determined if covid vaccines were safe enough.

    John ArmstrongJohn Armstrong5 giờ trước
  • Make a funny video on animal crossing

    Vonvon GonzalesVonvon Gonzales5 giờ trước
  • Thank you all in the comments section for stating what I already figured and saving me 23 minutes and 29 seconds of my life.

    GarouGarou6 giờ trước
  • With the Blazes, what NOONE is talking about is on one of those runs, Dream found a LOOTING 2 sword at a ruined portal. For the n00bs out there, LOOTING 2 increases the odds of a mob dropping loot when killed. This has not been addressed by anyone. The report also compares FIVE of Luminas speedruns with SIX of Dreams. So there already is a inconsistency. Thats like me saying: "Ok matpat, flip this coin 50 times for five days and record how many heads and tails you get." Then I go to Stephanie and give her a coin and say "Ok Steph, flip this coin 50 times for Six days and record how many heads and tails you get." Then on the Monday next week, i'll see Steph had more heads that Mat. Did she use a two headed coin? Did she cheat? No because she had higher odds so had a higher Heads. Same with Dream on his trades. He did more trades and thus got more drops. Come on matpat do your job instead of repeating what everyone has already been saying.

    Azguard Mike 2013Azguard Mike 20138 giờ trước
  • Wasn't the point of 1.16 to change the game dramatically to make it feel different

    Theater BrattTheater Bratt9 giờ trước
  • Ah MatPat, you began an eccentric entertainer at home amongst the Wild West of VIworld, but the years of advertiser scrutiny have pushed you down to little more than a shill who profits off the young. Perhaps your time on this platform is due to expire, and you may not be missed.

    Bush MGBush MG10 giờ trước
  • 100x

    C MC M10 giờ trước
  • 8:35 youtube is broken my button is white :p

    lucktr8lucktr811 giờ trước
  • wtf that wasent even a theory...... is that just a slogan now adays?

    sebastian bellsebastian bell12 giờ trước
  • Just saying, I am not a dream stan, but I AM good at math. And they released a statement that the chance of getting dream's runs was 10 billion to 1? 100 billion to 1? 1000 billion to 1? Point is, there is a chance of dreams runs to be true. That he didn't need to manipulate rng and that his luck was good. If the statement and said impossible then, well, I am with you, dream cheated. But the statement gave numbers that were near impossible, improbable, because they still had a chance to be true. I think dream hit the luck jackpot and is telling the truth.

    Syed Azfar Ali Jalali ACSG8Syed Azfar Ali Jalali ACSG815 giờ trước
  • Hey Matt , Id like to ask , when enderman are people or ancient builders , how did they got to End when ender pearls drop from Enderman? ._.

    Benjamin JakubecBenjamin Jakubec16 giờ trước
  • Me : explains simple math My family;

    シJusDibzュ ス デ ィ ブ ズシJusDibzュ ス デ ィ ブ ズ17 giờ trước
  • Well what are the chances of finding a stronghold RANDOMLY ( finding it by chance or without eye of ender ) im guessing very slim yet it happened to me tis luck

    Ella CavanaghElla Cavanagh19 giờ trước
  • Me: about to beat the speed run by 00000000000.1 seconds

    Flowey The flowerFlowey The flower22 giờ trước
  • who was the first person to ever make a netherite beacon

    ariel hernandezariel hernandezNgày trước
  • deam is mrbeast

    Nguyen Bui Ha LinhNguyen Bui Ha LinhNgày trước
    • Bruh no

      Ares LothbrokAres Lothbrok9 giờ trước
  • He does not

    Dean FawcettDean FawcettNgày trước
  • 1.16 : so different some people don't accept it 1.17 : *uhhhhh*

    SCP ProductionsSCP ProductionsNgày trước
  • When does the video start? Over 5min mark haven't started the video yet where is minecraft speedrun. Haven't dissapointed more in any of ur video almost never dissapointed but this one oh yeah wasted my time.

    glitch gamerglitch gamerNgày trước
  • the joker has aids

    ken dowken dowNgày trước
  • gooba gabba

    ken dowken dowNgày trước
  • Mr beast was In the background at the store

    Holly CarrHolly CarrNgày trước
  • 0:14 why does mr beast have so much stuff???

    Michael LangstonMichael LangstonNgày trước
  • spoiler alert: dream cheated

    dandaddandadNgày trước

    Martha CimaMartha CimaNgày trước
  • uwu

    Kartoony_KobiYTKartoony_KobiYTNgày trước
  • i dont get it

    Martha CimaMartha CimaNgày trước
  • I Had More Cringe

    Victoria And JosephVictoria And JosephNgày trước
  • It was fake

    Brandon GeeBrandon GeeNgày trước
  • "Did dream cheat his speedrun?" That only dream fan : *clicks out of video*

    madhvi goyalmadhvi goyalNgày trước
  • Before Reveal: 10 = 7 heads Answer Reveal: IM CORECT!!! :D

    The Aisha BiscuitThe Aisha BiscuitNgày trước
  • We: did dream cheat? MatPat: Well yes, but actually no

    Tiger AroraTiger AroraNgày trước
  • 60

    Tashi YuenTashi YuenNgày trước
  • I saw someone beat minecraft in 4:24 minutes

    Player 1Player 1Ngày trước
  • Me: being that one 8 year old kid bad at math but likes game theory lol

    Aafiya arissaAafiya arissaNgày trước
  • Flip 10 and get 7+heads

    GINGY_zamination YtGINGY_zamination YtNgày trước
  • although there are 10-37 major factors involved, it seems that "the thing that makes minecraft 1.16 speedruns 5 minutes faster than previous versions is the piglin trading, it's basically a slot machine". so if one were to cheat at this game, do you think they would change those rates? and change the rates of "one of the biggest bottlenecks in any minecraft speedrun"?

    Kobe is ChildrenKobe is ChildrenNgày trước
    • and don't you think that Kobe is children? cause he is

      Kobe is ChildrenKobe is ChildrenNgày trước
  • NEW THEORY FOR MINECRAFT What is bedrock made of

    Kenrick John MarquezKenrick John MarquezNgày trước
  • YT theory: Matpat inetially had an awnser, but the awnser was that Dream did cheat. However, since Dream has already collabed on Game Theory, Matpat didn't want to ruin his future chances with Dream's clout (attacking someone on the internet who has more clout then you is a death sentance). But since he didn't want to throw away hours of research, he made a video that never gave a diffinitive awnser.

    SK_WantsToGameEndSK_WantsToGameEndNgày trước
  • But with the stupid barter,I barted with more than 280 gold,u know how much I got? 5 pearls,5 PEARLS, if u are thinking how I got that much, I had a Mesa near my village

    Pranav J pillaiPranav J pillaiNgày trước
  • I have got more than that much blaze rods so does that mean I cheated? No it's just luck And looting 😂

    Pranav J pillaiPranav J pillaiNgày trước
    • He doesn't get the drops once and thats it after hours of clips his luck is much higher than anyone

      Benedict MasengiBenedict MasengiNgày trước
  • Stand-up maths did a video that actually answers the question... 🙏🏽

    Mateus FernandesMateus FernandesNgày trước
  • This is worst then mrbossftw’s video’s

    The man with Panda eyesThe man with Panda eyesNgày trước
  • When he was talking about flipping coins I did not get any of that lol

    Ruby _GemRuby _GemNgày trước
  • 8:32 my aswer is (a)

    susan alvarengasusan alvarenga2 ngày trước
  • idk that questiopn

    Marco RiveraMarco Rivera2 ngày trước
  • Why tf do people even care he’s not even first he’s sixth , people only care because it’s dream

    KOJONES123 4KOJONES123 42 ngày trước
    • It's because he faked a speedrun

      Benedict MasengiBenedict MasengiNgày trước
    • Exactly, any other runner and their run would have just been quietly removed and they would have been suspended from posting. Because it’s dream we have to keep talking about it because he won’t let it go and his stans don’t understand maths.

      morbideddiemorbideddieNgày trước
  • im gonna tell my math teacher to find out if he was cheating

    Ian OwensIan Owens2 ngày trước
  • "when they bust out latex, you know its serious" thats what she said im sorry i had to

    Ian OwensIan Owens2 ngày trước
  • I want to matt to be my mentor like om not joking

    SilencedLamb_ _SilencedLamb_ _2 ngày trước
  • 10 and getting heads 7 times

    Black and yellowBlack and yellow2 ngày trước
  • Dream Speedrunner *exists* The Game Theorists: Dream the Game *Exists*

    DIO BrandoDIO Brando2 ngày trước
  • Here's an actual answer to this question by Matt Parker from StandUp Maths: Bonus: it doesn't have the ridiculous bragging about understanding a bunch of math that he clearly doesn't understand at all.

    Ruben QuackRuben Quack2 ngày trước
  • How can some people in this comment section be so ignorant as still think that dream definitively cheated. Matpat’s argument is that the chance of Dream’s drop rates is subjective, which is clearly evident by the different methodologies of the “Particle Physicist” and the mod team. The definitive answer to whether he cheated or not is obtainable only in a perfect world. The best solution would be to support the number of factors (why is it 10 vs 37?), and then to select data from every single recorded instance of Dream’s speed running attempts. Both sides did none of this, and both were biased, and used “true” but misleading statistics. Statistics may be right on a graph, but when applied to a topic, are misleading. For example, “4/5 dentists recommend Colgate”. It may be true, but perhaps those same 5 dentists all recommended Sensodyne. The original statement isn’t false, but it is misleading you to buy the less recommended brand, when obviously Sensodyne was recommended more. Conclusion: Statistics are often biased and used to lie to people, and Pat’s video is saying the ways you can come to a conclusion (and also how both sides did) is not truly representing the entire picture.

    Chimbi ChoombiChimbi Choombi2 ngày trước
  • matpat is like you when you're asked "would you save your mom or dad?"

    animesh rawatanimesh rawat2 ngày trước
  • 2:11 oh god no not latex

    Gaetan SiffertGaetan Siffert2 ngày trước
  • This was decidedly a YES to anyone who really understood the data, but a "...maybe no??" to Dream stans. I understand, PatPat, but if you ain't finna answer the question yourself, you shouldn't finna ask the question in your title. Title it something like "An in depth analysis on the Dream situation" or something.

    Alexander WisemanAlexander Wiseman2 ngày trước
  • If he is better than you in minecraft it doesn't mean you should make fake videos about him

    Viktor MilojevicViktor Milojevic2 ngày trước
  • Little did future Matpat know was that the argument continued more on the down low

    Arianna OrosArianna Oros2 ngày trước
  • this video is so infuriating to watch for so many reasons - too many unnecessary tangents - no real conclusion/answer to the actual title question, hence just pure clickbait - flexing that you share some business with LE DREAM, i guess he is somebody to gloat about - this was basically the longest loudest loading screen for an (skillshare) ad - claiming this video is supposed to be educating about the maths, in the end only explaining the theory of it in a very weird and hard to understand way - the finishing verdict. "minecraft 1.16+ shouldnt be getting speedruns anymore cause too high dependence on luck :c"

    Mel MarmoriaMel Marmoria2 ngày trước
  • This is last year's drama mat

    SleekJupiterSleekJupiter2 ngày trước
  • 60 is harder than 7 :)

    nonamenoname3 ngày trước
  • I think we all forget what kind of channel Matpat has, he is a Theorist. Yes, he is a good theorist but everybody isn’t always right. Maybe he did cheat, maybe he did not. Your all in the comments talking about how he dodged the question but really he’s literally just doing what he normally does. Yet you don’t say this when he makes different themes such as FNAF and other DDLC? Yet nobody from these games have stood up to things such as this? Why say all of this now because it’s a VIworldr and not a game of which you can’t say to somebody’s face? Yes, it is basically click bait but what isn’t? My god people it’s 2021, click bait is everywhere right under your noses! Not even just on youtube and even I think you know that. Go ahead, comment down how wrong I am but you can’t deny that this is suspicious and seems acted. Yeah, he might be right but he isn’t a mind reader, the only person who knows whether they cheated or not is Dream. I wonder why it’s always the VIworldr’s fault and not the game/game developers? 1.16 just came out when this event took place so their is bound to be bugs. But that still doesn’t mean Dream is off the hook and neither is MatPat. But remember, at the end of the day it’s just a theory everybody. :) (Please debate about this in the comments, I wanna see all of opinions on this :D)

    Honshu :]Honshu :]3 ngày trước
  • This channel helped me learn more than my class lol

    Oda SiamOda Siam3 ngày trước
  • 8:36 THEY"RE BOTH THE SAME! HA! Sorry so many comments. I'll do less next time

    Zack PumpkinheadZack Pumpkinhead3 ngày trước
  • 1:46 Warzone... huh? Have you heard of... 2b2t?

    Zack PumpkinheadZack Pumpkinhead3 ngày trước
  • No

    Matthew HoganMatthew Hogan3 ngày trước
  • conclusion: the speedrunning team is jealous

    Livie NoelleLivie Noelle3 ngày trước
    • Conclusion:youre a dream stan

      Kuya LongKuya Long2 giờ trước
    • Yes Stanley, they were jealous of his 14th place run.

      morbideddiemorbideddieNgày trước
    • Lol

      Hayden YHayden Y3 ngày trước
  • Pls he would be such a cool and good teacher

    kat hkat h3 ngày trước
    • Yea

      Hayden YHayden Y3 ngày trước
  • 7 times

    Glad Bros EntertainmentGlad Bros Entertainment3 ngày trước
  • Matpat is such a wuss the only reason he won’t say he is cheating is because he is scared to lose his kid subscribers but don’t you see Matpat your subscribers have now grown up dot. Be afraid to say he cheated

    Dr. RockerDr. Rocker3 ngày trước
  • Mat pls tell me pls!

    Rainbow PummmkinsRainbow Pummmkins3 ngày trước
  • I can smell the dream stan dislike this video.

    James7James73 ngày trước
  • hope you all have a nice week, wanted to let you know that Jesus loves you and died for you. you might think of this as annoying and you’ve seen it a lot, but it’s more than that. those who share this are happy with Christ and believe in eternal life and happiness. they want you to be a part of that too, and so do i. you can have your own opinion and i respect it and you can ignore this and that’s fine. stay safe. i believe in you. in whatever you want to do. God has not left you, and never will. again, Jesus Christ loves you so much. He is willing to heal you and anyone else no matter what they’ve done. He has died for us and proved that He is the Christ, Savior, and Protector. God heals us, even though we are wicked. think about that. may we not be ashamed to share His word, for He was not ashamed of us.

    RaisinTreeRaisinTree3 ngày trước
    • I would like to say the youtube comments are not the beat place for this kind of a statement

      Brandon MorehouseBrandon Morehouse3 ngày trước
  • Ppl are knocking matpat for not really answering, but he did give a more complex view of both arguments, and I don’t think that’s nothing.

    Dragon FireDragon Fire3 ngày trước
  • my view I don't think he cheated he clearly got a higher drop rate then normal but odds are just odds. The drop rate for endermen dropping ender pearls is around 50% of course that doesn't mean you're going to consistently drop 5 ender pearls for every 10 endermen its possible to kill 1000 endermen and them drop no enderpearl just its very very unlikely I dont know the probability percentage i imagine its extremely low but still not impossible.

    a channela channel3 ngày trước
  • When he started talking about the luck of the item drops, I just thought "so no one here has played a gacha game then" because the luck I've seen some people have by accident is ridiculous, versus some people who whale on them and don't get nearly as lucky (hence the whaling)

    bestofyosukebestofyosuke3 ngày trước
  • Mans pulled a Ranboo and didn't choose sides

    JamFoxxyJamFoxxy3 ngày trước
  • 2:21 relatable ;-;

    FreesmartBros2007FreesmartBros20073 ngày trước
  • Ah yes, clickbait

    AncientAmber YTAncientAmber YT3 ngày trước
    • Well yes but actually no

      Brandon MorehouseBrandon Morehouse3 ngày trước
  • I thought condoms when u said latex, but i noticed the quadratic formula short after 😂. What am i?

    K'Sean RichardsonK'Sean Richardson3 ngày trước
  • So everyone's hating matpat here because he doesnt know something? Makes sense

    DONT wamtDONT wamt3 ngày trước
  • So... He did? Because any Dream stans that disagree better bend over.

    Out by the Water in Cape MayOut by the Water in Cape May3 ngày trước
  • help me with me math pls

    •peachs bunzs ôwø••peachs bunzs ôwø•3 ngày trước
  • İmagine dream commenting

    ENOENO3 ngày trước
  • I think 100 times

    Ariel FloresAriel Flores3 ngày trước
  • The real problem is that profesional mathmeticians and scientists can spend hours of time just to debunk a minecraft speedrun... Do they really not have anything better to do with their life??

    Zain HudaZain Huda4 ngày trước
  • :0

    Dream the animatorDream the animator4 ngày trước
  • Some people took this video the wrong way bc there are quite a lot of dislikes

    chrichuchrichu4 ngày trước
  • Its funny bc they're talking about high luck but there was a game my dad played and literally got a 0.01% chance weapon 5 time in a row (DFFOO)

  • Awsome

    Jamie BrophyJamie Brophy4 ngày trước
  • Sir, I seem to be missing an answer in this video

    raystrashcanraystrashcan4 ngày trước
  • Coin ten times

    Juliet TorresJuliet Torres4 ngày trước
  • for anyone who’s angry about lack of an answer it says FINAL ANALYISIS NOT FINAL ANSWER

    lars thememelordlars thememelord4 ngày trước
  • Yeah, you can say that it's 69.2 percent, but if people didn't watch other people's videos, that is 8.8 x 10 to the power of MINUS 12. That is(near) one in a 8800000000000 chance of getting JUST the blaze rods. Including ender pearls, which are (again near) one in 5600000000000 chance, then yeah. And both of them together, are (near) 1 in 2000000000000000000000 chance of getting them.

    Vanja NenadovićVanja Nenadović4 ngày trước